Gut and Thyroid Health Hacks to Feel Better Fast

I’m not going to lie, I could also be a bit bit obsessive about intestine well being. In actual fact, I discuss it a lot at house that my husband and our buddies have turned it right into a consuming sport. And no, I’m not kidding. However I type of can’t assist myself as a result of it’s a massively essential matter that’s so crucial to our total well being, particularly should you’re a girl over 40 who’s making an attempt to shed weight and get wholesome.

And should you’re excited to study extra about methods to maintain your intestine wholesome, you’ll love this visitor interview with Megan Lyons. She’s a double board licensed holistic nutritionist, and he or she has some tremendous useful and sensible tricks to share about, yep, you guessed it: Intestine well being, my favourite matter in the entire world.

So buckle up, good friend, as a result of it’s about to get nerdy.

Megan Lyons is a holistic nutritionist who’s the founding father of Lyons Share Wellness, the place she teaches about intestine well being, thyroid well being, and a lot extra.

And let me let you know, Megan not solely is aware of her stuff, she really explains it in a method that makes it really easy to grasp, which I feel makes it far more useful. And so with out additional ado, I’m so excited to have the ability to introduce you to our interview visitor, Megan Lyons. 

Ruth: Megan, thanks a lot for being right here. It’s so nice to have you ever. Let’s simply begin by getting a bit background, who you might be, what you do and the way you bought to doing what you are actually. 

Megan: After all. So like most of us, I’ve type of a winding journey that in hindsight appears prefer it all flows collectively.

However it didn’t really feel like that every one the best way on the time. I began out really within the enterprise world. I studied economics at Harvard and I obtained an MBA and I used to be working in administration consulting and I actually preferred it. It was enjoyable. However throughout that, I had my very own private well being journey that principally resulted in me burning out.

I used to be burning the candle at a number of ends. I used to be over exercising. I didn’t know methods to nourish my physique. I used to be actually getting my well being info from magazines on the time, which sounds archaic now, however there was no Instagram. I didn’t know methods to entry PubMed. So I used to be doing all of the issues they stated.

And at 23, I walked into a physician’s workplace who fortunately examined my hormones, which is definitely fairly progressive trying again, and he or she stated, “Your hormones are decrease than the postmenopausal girls that I see. One thing have to be improper. You need to simply should be on treatment for the remainder of your life.” And I simply knew proper then that if I had gotten myself into this example that I might additionally get myself out of it.

In order that began me studying extra about true well being and diet. And as soon as you discover it, it’s simply actually arduous to not share it. So I ended up leaving that in 2014 and beginning my enterprise, the Lyons Share, and haven’t appeared again since.

Ruth: Wonderful. I do know precisely what you’re speaking about. When you uncover that and your eyes are opened, you’re like, why doesn’t all people do that? 

It’s fascinating that your physician would have examined your hormones once you have been solely 23 years outdated, like kudos, however then she instantly went to only put you on treatment for the remainder of your life.

Megan: That’s proper, and I’m really grateful, trying again, that she did take a look at the hormones, as we stated, however I additionally perceive that at that time, it was irregular and it was not mentioned for a 23 12 months outdated younger lady to truly have the signs that I used to be having and to tie it to something other than, oh, genetics. 

I feel practical medication and all of the associated fields have come to this point since then that today it’d really feel a bit bit extra regular to suppose, “Oh, hormones, is there a way of life problem? Is there a diet problem? However again then it simply wasn’t taught and wasn’t considered. 

Ruth: So the place did that journey take you then? What did you do first? And what have been the hormonal points that you just have been having and the way did you determine methods to repair them? 

Megan: Completely. So the hormonal points I used to be having, I hadn’t had a interval for over 12 months. So, that’s the official definition of menopause, which I used to be 23 and there needed to be a special trigger apart from age associated menopause.

However much more drastic was simply the best way I felt. I’ve by no means been somebody since then or earlier than who appears like I’ve mind fog. I’ve at all times been a excessive power individual, however I might describe it to my husband and people near me as like, “There’s somebody residing in my head that simply is making me be in a nasty temper and making me drained and I don’t need to be that.” I felt very disconnected from my physique in a method that I simply didn’t know methods to pinpoint what it was.

And it seems it was a confluence of things. It wasn’t simply estrogen and progesterone, but in addition my thyroid was off and cortisol, which is the stress hormone that type of controls a number of these, that was off. So my complete endocrine system was a bit wacky, however the second a part of your query was, what did I really do?

I’ve at all times been a reader. I learn a lot for pleasure and for training. So I actually dove into some books and that led me to conferences, which at first of my journey, that was such enjoyable. I might do enterprise in the course of the week, after which I might go escape to this weekend convention the place I might simply study this complete different aspect of the world, and that’s what ultimately lit me up and precipitated me to leap ship from the outdated profession.

Ruth: So then how lengthy did it take so that you can begin feeling higher? Like, did you see the distinction immediately? What did you alter? What did you do? 

Megan: Yeah. I want the reply was sure. It could be a a lot better story if it was like, I simply added blueberries after which inside two weeks, I felt wonderful, but it surely wasn’t that method for me and thankfully, or sadly, I don’t suppose it’s that method for most individuals, even those that I see with extra information today.

So in complete, it most likely took me a stable 12 months and a half to nearly two years to essentially really feel like myself. I felt marginally higher, or I might even have stated then principally higher inside most likely two to 3 months. However trying again, every thing didn’t begin firing once more as a result of I had dug myself so deep right into a gap.

I additionally wasn’t keen to go all in again then. So I’ll inform my purchasers coping with comparable points proper now. “Okay, if we might simply take you out of your life with like, no child stress, you’re going to stop work for some time, you’re not going to maintain the home, you’re simply going to go stay on a seashore in Tahiti and eat natural meals that you just grew in your yard.

“Effectively, you would most likely heal a bit bit faster, however most of us should not keen to do this or ready to do this.” And I definitely had one toe into the therapeutic as a result of I actually believed in it, but in addition one toe again in my outdated life, as a result of I like being that onerous charging individual.

And even at the moment, I nonetheless consistently get to test myself as a result of I do know I can simply revert to that one who will sleep when she’s useless and can overwork and can do all this stuff. That does nonetheless gentle me up if I’m completely trustworthy. I simply know higher now that it’s not good. It doesn’t have the glitz and glamour that it appears to have in my head.

And it at all times leads me really feel worse. So, I don’t know if that was a solution to your query, however that was a part of my journey. 

Ruth: No, it was. And I feel it’s so good to truly contact on that as a result of I feel a number of instances, folks desire a fast repair. And also you at all times should suppose, you didn’t get to the place you might be proper now in a single day. And therapeutic your self and therapeutic your physique, particularly since you nonetheless have life… You continue to have all these different influences which are coming in. It’s arduous to vary every thing abruptly.

It’s a technique of therapeutic. And it feels like that’s the way it was for you. So inform us a bit bit extra about what you do, what you do now and the place your degree of experience is. Trigger you’ve obtained all these holistic diet levels and achieved all this stuff.

You appear a bit sort A, can I say that? 

Megan: You’ll be able to say it and I’ll settle for it. Whenever you go all in, you’re like, I’m going all in. So I do wish to go all in. My enterprise aspect would say, “Oh, Megan, you’ve obtained to have a distinct segment. It’s important to have one particular specialty. And my coronary heart says there are such a lot of folks on the market which are best for you which have a wide range of totally different situations.”

And I’ve adopted my coronary heart, actually, on this enterprise. So I don’t have one particular sort of consumer that I work with. I’ve a staff of practical nutritionists as nicely that work with me. And we work with everybody from somebody who is likely to be 25 and simply beginning to find out about well being… It’s like me again within the day… all the best way as much as our oldest consumer who has been 87.

However I might say the majority of individuals we work with, most likely 70 to 80 p.c of our purchasers, are these girls of their forties or possibly late thirties, possibly early fifties, possibly sixties, even who’re simply beginning to really feel like their physique doesn’t work the identical because it did earlier than, that they’re doing the identical issues they usually’re consuming the identical, possibly even higher.

And so they’re sleeping they usually’re making an attempt to test all of the containers, however one thing’s a bit bit off. And so for me, it’s actually enjoyable to have that be like a detective puzzle. Is it the thyroid? Is it the intestine? Is it the best way that they’re feeling they usually simply don’t know methods to gas? Like I didn’t know again after I was 23, however that’s the attribute that pulls me to an individual or attracts an individual to me, somebody who says, “I’ve tried all of the issues and I’m nonetheless not feeling optimum.”

Ruth: I like that. So what do you discover inside that type of inhabitants? The majority of your purchasers that you just see in that late thirties to let’s say early sixties vary, what’s your first suspicion? Do you’ve gotten a hierarchy of what it often is? 

Megan: Sure, that’s such an awesome query. I like it. I might most likely say that if I had to decide on one, it often begins within the intestine. I consider nearly all the points that we’re coping with at the moment begin within the intestine.

So lots of people now are saying, Oh, no, nicely, it’s not my intestine. I’m common. And even then I’d probe a bit bit deeper they usually’re like, yeah, I’m common. I’ve a bowel motion each 4 days. And it’s type of pebbly and dry. However that’s not common, by the best way, however we would not really feel like their digestive signs are their worst signs.

I do discover although that just about at all times after we deal with lowering that irritation within the intestine, then we will deal with a number of the different signs. So intestine would most likely be primary. Truthfully, with this demographic, I’m going to say thyroid might be going to be quantity two. Lots of people say, Oh, it have to be my thyroid.

And so they don’t actually know, however oftentimes they’re proper. Our trendy meals society is about up. not for supportive or for wholesome blood sugar. And so that may be the foundation of a number of the problems as nicely. So the third, if I had to decide on a 3rd, it will be blood sugar, which is getting increasingly more talked about today.

Ruth: So let’s return to intestine well being as a result of that’s such an enormous one for folks and I feel that it’s beginning to get talked about a bit bit extra. However I don’t suppose it will get talked about almost sufficient. So how does that turn out to be the factor that’s affecting every thing else in your physique? Are you able to clarify that a bit bit extra? Like, why is it so essential? 

Megan: Completely. So the intestine must be like a display door that has the tiniest little holes in it potential.

So we’re not making an attempt to let any bugs in our home with our display door. We’re not making an attempt to let any meals particles into our bloodstream from our intestine. And that’s why the intestine is that this semi permeable lining. Solely escaping by way of the intestine lining must be little micronutrients, possibly some vitamin C or possibly another type of supportive issues that our blood can carry the place it must go.

However when we now have stress, when we now have poisonous publicity, when we now have extreme extremely processed meals, when we now have alcohol, when we now have antibiotics, this complete lengthy checklist of issues, that intestine lining simply begins changing into like a extremely outdated display door that now the holes are a lot larger and extra stuff can escape by way of.

And when stuff, like an entire chunk now of broccoli or no matter meals you eat, will get into the bloodstream, your physique mounts this assault on it. Your immune system comes into play and that creates irritation. And irritation now we all know has been linked to most cancers and kind two diabetes and heart problems, all this stuff the place irritation is definitely a contributor.

If it occurs in a small space, like if I sprained my ankle and my ankle will get infected, that’s useful. However when our intestine is having these points and creating all this irritation, that’s when all of the signs begin. So if we will simply deal with therapeutic up that intestine lining, then we will scale back the irritation and get the physique again to a baseline after which determine what different downstream impacts or conditions we have to resolve.

Ruth: So how does any individual know if they’ve intestine points? You stated folks suppose, “Oh, my poop is common,” however like, are you able to inform by your poop? Or is it different issues it is best to have a look at? Or what are the massive indicators? 

Megan: Yeah, actually nice query. So I can say you’ll be able to inform your intestine isn’t wholesome by your poop.

And so a wholesome bowel motion must be that we’re having it one to 3 instances per day. Going to the toilet one to 3 instances per day, folks suppose that’s loads. Folks suppose each one to 3 days is extra regular, but it surely’s not. And it ought to be capable to have a bowel motion with out espresso, laxatives, any of that type of stuff. 

Now I like espresso, so I’m not saying it’s important to surrender espresso altogether, however we will’t depend on that to have a bowel motion day-after-day. And other people can really Google one thing referred to as the Bristol Stool Scale– which you’ve by no means wished to see a lot poop multi functional image– but it surely ought to appear like that quantity 4. The Bristol Stool Scale has one to seven. And primary is extra like pellets, like little teeny pellets. And quantity seven is like diarrhea and 4 is correct within the center. I wish to check with it as frozen yogurt consistency, though that turns folks off from frozen yogurt.

So I’m sorry however that’s what it ought to appear like. And we should always have it one to 3 instances a day. So if it’s not that, and you already know what, let’s be trustworthy. Everybody has instances that it’s not precisely like that. So if it occurs a few times, please don’t freak out. But when you already know, “Oh my gosh, each single time it’s diarrhea or no matter, then you already know, your intestine isn’t wholesome.”

However let’s say you might be that one who has one quantity 4 bowel motion each single day on the stool scale. So that you’re like, Oh no, it’s not me. A pair different actually frequent issues I see: Primary, pores and skin points. So pores and skin is instantly reflective of intestine well being. For lots of my purchasers who’re coping with eczema or rosacea or pimples, even grownup pimples, this is usually a manifestation of poor intestine well being.

Additionally mind fog is among the most typical issues that I see. So I had mind fog again after I was going by way of my well being journey. And that was a sign to me that one thing was off, however individuals who simply really feel like, you already know, I’m simply not as sharp. I simply can’t focus as a lot as I used to have the ability to focus.

After which issues like power cravings, like I’m maintaining a healthy diet meals, and I nonetheless simply can’t maintain my hand out of the sweet jar there. That’s most likely a sign that you just’re not absorbing your vitamins nicely sufficient and so that you’re having these cravings. So lots of people suppose, “Oh, you bought to take a probiotic, proper?”

Ruth: That’s good on your intestine. Like, is that every one it’s important to do? Or what are the steps to get your intestine more healthy should you really feel prefer it’s not wholesome. 

Megan: Yeah, completely. So I might say that probiotics had their heyday the place each single individual stated that everybody must be on a probiotic after which they have been type of vilified like, “Oh, my gosh, no, don’t do probiotics.”

And I are inclined to fall someplace within the center the place I really suppose most individuals would profit from a probiotic. In the event that they’re not consuming a number of fermented meals, like sauerkraut and kimchi and actual pickles and kefir and tempeh. There are every kind of various fermented meals the place in most cultures, they’ve traditionally consumed fermented meals as a part of their common diets. We don’t eat a number of that each day. So most individuals I feel would profit from a probiotic. However there are a few of these situations like SIBO, which is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, the place the micro organism type of go up too far into the small gut.

And a probiotic may even make that worse. So that is why some persons are cautious. However I might say that most individuals know that in the event that they take a probiotic and their signs worsen, then that’s most likely not the most effective for you. In any other case, should you’re not consuming fermented meals, that could possibly be an excellent transfer for you.

However there are a lot of different issues, such as you stated, and considered one of them is lowering the inflammatory content material of our meals. Most of our meals today is packaged and extremely processed and I’m definitely not good right here regardless that that is my job. I’ve undoubtedly had packaged meals prior to now 24 hours, regardless that I actually attempt to put together nearly all of my meals. However I’m human and it’s 2024 and that’s okay.

Nevertheless, in an effort to keep shelf secure, in that packaged meals is a number of merchandise which are irritating to our intestine. So should you have a look at the label you’ll see chemical soup and you may consider that as irritating to your intestine.

After which issues like added sugar and alcohol. And even to some extent, gluten and dairy, which I don’t suppose everybody has to get rid of gluten and dairy altogether. But when we have a look at the common American consuming 8 to 14 servings of gluten per day in complete, that’s loads. That’s an excessive amount of for the common individual’s intestine well being. So after we take into consideration all this stuff coming collectively, after which the dearth of Anti-inflammatory vitamins, meals like greens and fruits and wholesome fats and water and even meditation and stress reduction, our weight-reduction plan is fairly lopsided. 

I’ve a handout for my purchasers, which is sort of a see noticed. I simply say, the place’s your see noticed tipped? Are you extra to the inflammatory aspect or extra to the anti-inflammatory aspect? After which we simply select little issues. Okay, can we add another vegetable to your day? Can we add some berries along with your breakfast? Can we swap that sweet bar for no matter else, one other complete meals? It’s simply these little tweaks that get us again to the fundamentals that actually can assist our intestine well being.  

Ruth: Fascinating. So should you’re making little tweaks, I might assume that your progress goes to go slower, proper? After which should you’re going all in, how lengthy wouldn’t it take to go from like, my intestine’s a multitude to I obtained a rockin wholesome intestine. What’s the timeframe on that?

And what’s the quickest you would heal your intestine?  

Megan: Effectively, these are two totally different questions. The quickest you would heal your intestine, like all in, true sort A kind… I’m gonna shock folks most likely on the underwhelming aspect and say three months. As a result of our intestine lining really turns over fairly rapidly, relying on the kind of cells. Inside every week for lots of the forms of cells in our intestine lining, so we will begin feeling a distinction in a short time. However to completely restore a leaky intestine with intestinal permeability, and to completely scale back that irritation, I’m going to say three months is the shortest time.

After which let’s say, you’re like me with one toe within the therapeutic and one toe in my outdated life-style. If I had had full info, even with out going all in, I feel I might have achieved it in six months figuring out now what I do. So I feel three to 6 months for most individuals. Set your sights on that. And we do need to really feel higher.

For those who don’t really feel higher in any respect inside two weeks, then that’s not the precise protocol for you. However simply set your sights on a bit bit long term to really feel absolutely higher.  

Ruth: That’s good to know. I really feel like that’s an excellent timeline. It’s arduous to make any actual important change in your physique in lower than three months. As a result of all of it works collectively and it’s all linked. Talking of being all linked, let’s speak a bit bit about thyroid as nicely, since that’s such an enormous problem. So if intestine is the primary line of protection, thyroid is subsequent most typical.

How have you learnt if you’re having some kind of thyroid problem or what makes you observed that?  

Megan: Effectively, I feel thyroid points are very tough as a result of primary, they’re nonetheless underdiagnosed, regardless that they’re being talked about extra. Most practitioners will simply take a look at a TSH, which individuals have seen on their lab work, and that’s not even a thyroid hormone.

That’s a hormone secreted by your pituitary that alerts your thyroid to supply the thyroid hormones. So if we’re simply testing that, we’re actually lacking the intricate particulars of what’s occurring within the thyroid. But in addition as a result of the signs are so overlapping and many individuals are getting gaslit as a result of a number of the signs like bloating, constipation, fatigue, cussed weight acquire or incapability to shed weight, insomnia, mind fog… these might be disregarded as like, “Oh yeah, everybody feels that method. That’s regular.” And regular on this case isn’t optimum. So possibly sure, the common lady does have mind fog and constipation and incapability to shed weight, however that’s not what we must be striving for.

So it’s not optimum. And and not using a main signal, like, eczema the place there’s a visible manifestation and somebody can have a look at that and say, sure, that’s eczema with thyroid problems, we don’t diagnose the dysfunction. And we don’t at all times even have that. So I feel it’s fairly powerful for folks to get acceptable consideration.

And it’s tremendous, tremendous frequent today due to all the stress that we’re below and are altering meals provide and all these issues. As much as 60 p.c of people that have a thyroid dysfunction or situation don’t even know they’ve it.

Ruth: Wow. Actually? 

Megan: Yeah. Thyroid treatment is among the most prescribed drugs on the market. 

Ruth: So do you suppose the one method to definitively inform is to get a blood take a look at or have your thyroid examined? I imply, if I take your query for the phrases that you just stated, that’s the one method to definitively know.

Megan: Sure, I do suppose it’s a blood take a look at. So I wish to order lab exams solely based mostly on my consumer’s urge for food for them. If I had my very own method and lab exams have been free, I might run all of the lab exams on each single individual as a result of extra info is healthier for me. However some folks, they really feel over examined or that it’s not financially possible or many different the reason why folks wouldn’t need to get a take a look at.

So there are a lot of issues that might be supportive of a thyroid situation that actually don’t harm in any other case, like selenium and zinc are thyroid supportive vitamins actually specializing in stress and sleep administration is huge so we will make some progress even when we don’t formally know. However I feel on the finish of the day, the one method to definitively know is to run that full thyroid panel, not simply the TSH.

Ruth: Gotcha. However say you do know that you’ve got a thyroid problem, possibly you’ve been examined, possibly you go to the physician, they take a look at you, they are saying, yep, it’s a thyroid problem and instantly they’re going to need to put you on Synthroid or one thing comparable, proper? So what’s your method to that? I’m assuming you’re taking extra of a holistic method.  

Megan: Yeah, so I do. However once more, it relies on the consumer. And generally I’ll speak to their main care supplier. And different instances we’ll simply let the consumer be the middleman. Some persons are like, I really feel so unhealthy proper now. I need to take treatment and I’ll work on really therapeutic my physique.

And that’s okay. It’s completely their perspective. Different persons are like, No, let’s give it a shot. If I can begin feeling higher in three months, then I can keep away from the treatment. And that’s additionally nice. I do know that within the overwhelming majority of instances, we will get folks feeling higher even with out treatment. And that’s wonderful.

However generally treatment is useful. My solely drawback with treatment is when practitioners slap it on the individual with out even giving them a consideration or making an attempt anything. That’s the place I feel we’ve gone improper. I don’t suppose treatment is all evil although. No, it’s not all evil, however there’s loads that’s.  

Ruth: I don’t disagree with that. Huge pharma isn’t my favourite. I discuss that loads. So what are the final life-style modifications that you’d advocate any individual, particularly a girl of their forties, fifties, sixties, to make, to only total really feel higher?

Megan: Sure. So I’ve a button that’s simply outdoors of arm’s attain, however I name it my magic button. It doesn’t really do something, sadly, however I’ll present it to my purchasers and be like, if I might change one factor that might take advantage of distinction in your well being, what wouldn’t it be? And I promise you 99 instances out of 100, they know what it’s. Perhaps it’s that I haven’t exercised in 10 years, or possibly it’s, I’m over exercising.

Perhaps it’s, I actually am not sleeping or I’m taking an excessive amount of metaphorically on my shoulders, or I’m looking at a display 14 hours a day, or I’m on this poisonous relationship. Virtually at all times they know the largest factor. And so then my job is to assist them break it down and determine how can we really take motion?

As a result of information with out motion isn’t actually that useful. However it’s arduous. Let’s say somebody’s problem is stress. Effectively, that’s a lot simpler stated than achieved. It’s not similar to, Oh, cease being confused. Effectively, goodness is aware of they’ve considered that earlier than. We simply have to determine methods to do it. It’s our life-style today the place all of us suppose we’re tremendous girls… and I do too.

And we expect we should always do all the issues all the time. And that simply doesn’t often result in a wholesome life-style or physique. So primary is the magic button. What’s your factor that we will begin making a bit little bit of progress on? Quantity two might be associated for most individuals, which is carving out a while within the day for you.

And I do know all the the reason why folks’s alarm bells are going off saying they will’t, possibly they’ve a number of children they usually’re working and all of this stuff, however all of us are human and we do want that little time within the day. One of many main issues that helped me in my therapeutic course of was my morning routine.

I like it within the morning. I don’t suppose it must be within the morning, however that’s my time. I actually have this pink blanket and I wish to cozy up even within the Texas summer season and I learn and I do gratitude and I do this stuff that don’t take very lengthy, however they’re soul fulfilling for me. So for another folks that may imply they’ve a dialog with their greatest good friend on the telephone day-after-day once they’re strolling or they take a shower, which isn’t my factor, but it surely’s wonderful if it’s another person’s.

Simply one thing little, a couple of minutes per day you can carve out for you. After which third, since I feel you requested for 3, or possibly I simply make every thing into three, could be to essentially deal with these greens. I do know that everybody has heard this. And I do know everybody thinks they need to be consuming extra.

However when I’ve folks in for the primary time and I say, Oh, are you consuming greens? They’re like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I get to the extra horny stuff. After which I give them this little publish it observe. And I say, each time this week that you’ve got a vegetable, simply give me a bit tally and inevitably they’ll come again they usually’ll be like, Oh my gosh, I assumed I used to be consuming actually healthily.

And there are solely two on this tally for the week. So I do suppose that specializing in that and never solely what we’re taking out, just like the sugar and all of that type of stuff, however including in these greens could be my third. 

Ruth: Find it irresistible. Find it irresistible. Such good recommendation. So Megan, how can any individual discover you to search out out extra about serving to them with all of this stuff?

Megan: All the things is linked on my web site, theLyonsShare.org. I’ve been running a blog each week since 2013,  so there’s a number of free info up there. If somebody simply needs to look we now have some enjoyable freebies after which all of the hyperlinks on methods to work with our staff are up there as nicely.

Ruth: Superior. I like it. Thanks a lot for being right here, Megan. This was so useful and so informative. 

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