That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Stay Free. podcast.

Ruth Soukup: What if I instructed you that irrespective of the way you’re feeling proper now or what well being points you is likely to be battling, there’s one mineral you possibly can begin taking that may make you are feeling noticeably higher inside simply in the future. Sounds nearly too good to be true. Doesn’t it?

That’s what I assumed too, till I spent a while speaking to right this moment’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean.

Dr. Dean is without doubt one of the nation’s foremost consultants in magnesium and the affect it could actually have in your well being. And I acquired to let you know what she has to share is fairly compelling. And the perfect half is it’s fairly easy.

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At present we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Carolyn Dean, who’s a doctor and naturopathic doctor. In addition to one of many nation’s main consultants in magnesium and the creator of the brand new e book, Magnesium: The Lacking Hyperlink to Whole Well being. And right this moment she’s sharing some particulars in regards to the affect magnesium can have in your well being as together with why so many people are magnesium poor and the steps that you could take to right away begin feeling higher.

Like I stated, it’s fairly compelling. So with out additional ado, I’m very excited to have the ability to introduce you to right this moment’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Carolyn, thanks a lot for being right here right this moment. I’m so excited to speak to you.

Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thanks. Thanks, Ruth. I’ve been watching, not watching, listening to your podcast and also you’ve been interviewed fairly a couple of instances by my pal, Michael Sandler.

In order that was enjoyable. Properly, anyway, I’m simply leaping in.

I’m a medical physician and a naturopath. However I feel I’m a naturopath at coronary heart. I did my medical coaching first and They didn’t dissuade me from wanting to assist individuals with way of life and simply extra optimistic considering, non-drugs.

And that was again within the mid 70s once I went to med college. And there actually wasn’t that a lot details about alternate options. There was no well being meals retailer. Within the metropolis the place I did my medical coaching, which was Halifax, Nova Scotia. So I wasn’t deterred by what I realized in med college, though it was all drug oriented they usually laughed at me trigger I made my very own yogurt they usually laughed at me once I was, puncturing an apple with acupuncture needles, as a result of that was my elective.

I discovered an anesthesiologist within the hospital, a Chinese language gentleman, who was doing an acupuncture clinic after hours. So he stated to me as soon as, yeah, you recognize, I do all this medical stuff and sort of, you recognize, intrude with individuals throughout the day, however then I make up for it once I do my acupuncture. So I had lots of assist in staying with alternate options after which in my apply, it was, as I stated, I apply as a medical physician, however largely doing naturopathic drugs.

I sincerely thought by now, all medical doctors could be doing nutrient primarily based drugs, however they sadly they went to the darkish facet. Significantly, much more.

Ruth: Properly, it surprises me to speak to listen to you say you went to medical college within the seventies and it was already very a lot primarily based on remedy and prescriptions and simply probably not any alternate options even again as a result of that’s—you recognize, 70s weren’t that not too long ago and but now you’re proper. It’s gotten full. It’s gotten utterly worse and like actually unhealthy.

Dr. Dean I keep in mind one in all my clinicians saying solely give a medicine so long as it takes the affected person to get again on their ft.

And now we’ve acquired these lifelong medicines for diabetes, for ldl cholesterol, for you title it. So it’s gone very medical and all of the uncomfortable side effects from all these medication. I imply, there are lots of of them. And worst of all is in my world, as a result of I’m an skilled on magnesium. They deplete magnesium.

Lots of these medication are simply inbuilt such a approach. Lots of them have fluoride molecules connected to them to make them simpler to get throughout fats cell membranes. Our cell membranes are made from fats and these medication get by means of, however. Within the intestines, these medication may be damaged down by the intestinal micro organism they usually’ll launch this fluoride.

So then we’re poisoned and the fluoride it can bind I feel primarily to magnesium as a result of magnesium could be very reactive. I don’t know that for positive. There’s no research. Nobody’s this. It’s my conjecture that when, as a result of chemically, magnesium will bind to fluoride, you get an MgF2, and that compound referred to as phthalate deposits in tendons and joints and ligaments.

And what’s the black field warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride drug? It’s tendon rupture. Folks will take, lots of athletes will take Cipro. They’re giving it, Oh, I’ve acquired a chilly. I’ve acquired a sport developing, you recognize, give me a drug. They take Cipro and generally it’s on one, you recognize, one prescription.

Typically it’s cumulative they usually find yourself with tendon rupture. And we see that. I imply, I’m positive you’ve had shoppers who’ve had tendon rupture and it might be from as A fluoride drug. So anyway, the medication aren’t good. Yeah. So what we do is attempt to use nutrient constructing blocks in order that the physique is powerful in order that it could actually get better from sickness or damage.

I had a horrible fall a couple of months in the past. I crashed on my elbow and my knee didn’t break a factor. I swelled. Folks thought footage of my arm or my leg as a result of it was so swollen. And also you get better. I’m 75. I ought to have damaged many bones. And it’s a testomony to how I dwell my life and my vitamins that I didn’t.

And that’s what I need individuals to be taught. That there are constructing blocks they usually’re the fundamentals. You realize, they’re your nutritional vitamins. A, B, C, D, E, what else? After which your minerals. And like I stated I’m I’m actually keen on magnesium. And what I’ve achieved with the mineral world is created a picometer sized, stabilized, ionic kind, Of all of the minerals I work with in order that they’re instantly absorbed into the cells.

They don’t run out within the bowels or the urine. So the physique will get what it wants and it doesn’t must be excessive dose. So that you get your magnesium, your calcium, after all, however in our world, we’ve an excessive amount of calcium. Girls are instructed to take calcium dietary supplements to guard their bones, however they’re not instructed about calcium.

Or about magnesium and boron and molybdenum, all of the completely different minerals that go to make the bone and collagen. And which means vitamin C. Entire meals, vitamin C and ascorbic acid. If you’d like your ligaments and tissue in your physique typically, you want your collagen. I imply, as we age, what gravity does to us is magnified if we don’t have sufficient collagen.

So there’s all, they’re simply fundamental constructing blocks, however see what I’ve found is and I’ve written it on this e book, I’ve 65 medical circumstances that may actually be magnesium deficiency. And if we don’t deal with them with magnesium, then we give medication after which the medication make us worse. So we’ve gotten into this horrible bind and proper now I’m not, as you’ve heard, I haven’t talked about any model names of my merchandise that the FDA received’t let me say that my formulation will help individuals deal with or forestall illness.

We rely on podcasts like yours for us to get the data on the market for individuals to know that. You realize, with magnesium deficiency, you possibly can have acid reflux disease, you possibly can have Alzheimer’s and angina and atherosclerosis and nervousness. I imply, have a look at the nervousness in our world. Nervousness and panic assaults and even despair.

And I’ve heard your story. I do know what you’ve gone by means of. And if I might have solely had you and, you recognize, soaked you in Epsom salt and gave you magnesium and, you recognize, some B nutritional vitamins for positive, you’d have You realize, had an additional stage of coping so that you just didn’t must face what you face. So there are mind results with vitamins.

And as an alternative of giving the vitamins, the minerals and the, you recognize, the straightforward nutritional vitamins and omega 3 fatty acids, and naturally, vitamin D. Then we’re confronted with signs that then we both take medication for, or we take a complete host of herbs and, you recognize, no matter, ashwagandhi and herbs that, in the event that they’re not natural.

They’re not protected to take.

Ruth: Can I interrupt you for only a second and we are able to perhaps again up slightly bit as a result of I really feel like we, we talked about lots of issues suddenly. And I, so I’d like to interrupt it down just a bit extra methodically for people who find themselves listening, who for who that is like all model new data, proper?

So let’s identical to perceive and begin with slightly bit like, of like how, so that you went to medical college and also you have been all in favour of like pure different strategies from the very starting, or was there one thing that occurred in your personal, by means of your personal expertise that actually acquired you enthusiastic about sort of following down this path?

As a result of it’s completely different than what they’re educating in medical faculties. And apparently even again within the Seventies, and in addition it’s completely different from the norms. So what was it that sort of acquired you eager to even go down like a unique, take a unique method?

Dr. Dean I suppose I used to be simply curious once I was in my teenagers and my then boyfriend, now husband of 58 years, we started touring and from Dartmouth, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we ended up in California throughout the hippie days and we weren’t hippie, hippies, we weren’t druggies, however there was a vitamin revolution, Adele Davis, Pavarola, Jonathan Wright.

They usually had a couple of books and the individuals we have been staying with had a library. So I spent my time in that library and on the conventions with these unique well being consultants. And so I simply caught the bug. And I realized as a lot as I might, however what occurred is once I tried to go on the data, individuals weren’t that .

So lastly, once I was in honors biology in college, some youngsters, younger boys, males I knew in my courses, they only acquired into medical college. So I stated, properly, that’s for me. And I entered into the following semester. I simply occurred to have all of the conditions. So I went into drugs with the thought that, hey, you recognize, perhaps individuals received’t take heed to me if I’ve a medical diploma.

However as I already stated, you recognize, that I imply, I used to be form of castigated as a result of I spoke pure issues. I’d say, properly, I simply learn this paper that breast milk is healthier than bottled milk. And the pediatrician who was lecturing up on the entrance of the room, he referred to as me bubbles. He stated, properly, you recognize, you could suppose.

The science is behind us. So, you recognize, there you go. So that you’ll like this Ruth. It’s not on level, however it was so patriarchal and misogynistic or no matter phrases you wish to say in med college. My class out of 100 was the primary class that had greater than 25 ladies, 33 ladies. So we took, after all we took over the primary day of faculty, a clinician got here in and put up his slide.

It was a slide projector behind the theater and he was down entrance. The primary slide was a nude feminine slide. The second slide was a brand new feminine. The third slide was a nude feminine. In order that’s the way it was being taught. And no one knew one another within the class and folks, you recognize, we have been sort of. Wanting round.

I did greater than seemed round. I went out and get a microbiology professor pal of mine who had a depraved humorousness. And he was within the med college realm. And I acquired a playgirl journal. It was most likely the primary version in 1975. And I took out the male nude footage and he made slides. So two days later, when Buddy got here again To proceed his superior lecture.

We had the nude male slides within the entrance of his deck by the second slide, he had grabbed his little briefcase and ran out. I heard later that from my microbiology pal. In a single day, they took down each nude feminine image that was littered all through anatomy and biology.

They took the whole lot down. In order that’s direct motion. That’s not standing on a picket line and whining and complaining. It’s doing one thing.

Ruth: So you’re a trailblazer. Yeah, you’re a trailblazer. I adore it. Okay. So now let’s discuss slightly bit extra in regards to the minerals and the nutritional vitamins and these items that proper.

The pharmaceutical corporations don’t need us to speak about as a result of they need us to take the remedy. And now, such as you identified, they need us to be taking medicines for the remainder of our lives. They don’t, I imply, that’s the entire purpose, proper. Is to get us not simply taking the medication to take the medication for so long as they’ll presumably get us to take them, ideally for all times.

Okay. As a result of that’s how they take advantage of cash, however you’re saying we truly must ensure that we’re, if we simply can get the appropriate nutritional vitamins and minerals to really permit our physique to perform correctly. So what would you say are among the most vital issues that girls over 40 have to be targeted on?

And the way do you even know the place to start? Prefer it feels it’s, it could actually really feel so overwhelming. So how do you want, like, what are sort of the fundamentals?

Dr. Dean We begin saying to individuals, I’m, and I say, we, on my own and my customer support, and I’ve a radio present, on-line radio present each Monday. And the message we put out is the worst is over since you’re right here.

And what we begin with is magnesium and magnesium is important for 80 % of recognized metabolic features within the physique. All of the enzymes, the whole lot from head to foot. Magnesium is important to make muscle tissue and nerves work. And the way they do that could be a nerve cell or muscle cell will likely be opened up. The cell mineral ion channel will likely be opened as much as permit slightly little bit of calcium into the cell.

To permit it to fireside off and create the motion potential. After which, so, when that’s taking place, the cell is closed down, after which magnesium opens the cell up. And the calcium comes out. In case you don’t have magnesium for this perform, the cells sort of get floppy and the calcium simply drives itself in inflicting twitching and spasms and burning and irritation and tightness and mind fog, and we’ve 600 muscle tissue.

Now we have 45 miles of nerves. So any of that may be affected, you recognize, the attention twitching that I used. I’m a magnesium deficiency particular person, you recognize, poster little one. So I had the attention twitching and, you recognize, swallowing issues, coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, Charlie horse, stressed legs. Tight shoulders, insomnia, complications, all of these are signs of even migraines.

Luckily, I didn’t have migraines. So all these signs of the nerves and muscle tissue. And then you definitely get to the metabolic enzymes that magnesium works with. And that may be the digestion. You understand how our insulin is delivered to assist the glucose get into cells. simply how ldl cholesterol is made. The gene statin, the ldl cholesterol suppressing medication, they work on the identical enzyme that magnesium balances.

So statins will kill this, they, HMG CoA reductase. It’ll kill it. Whereas magnesium, if the physique wants extra calcium, it can manipulate the enzyme. If it wants much less, sorry, ldl cholesterol. If it wants extra ldl cholesterol, it can manipulate the enzyme and vice versa. So we’ve acquired a approach for the physique to do issues correctly.

So, and your subsequent query goes to be, properly, why aren’t we getting sufficient magnesium? We don’t get it in our meals anymore. It’s been farmed out of the soil and it’s very costly to, to place all of the minerals again within the soil. So I’m, you recognize, lots of my focus exterior my on-line dietary complement firm.

It’s a biodynamic natural farm. I put the whole lot into this farm. And if I attempt to eat totally off the farm with rooster eggs and all of the greens and fruits, I get all my magnesium deficiency signs again. I’ve been at conferences the place vegans and vegetarians will come as much as me after my magnesium lecture and say, properly, I’ve twitching and this and that, however I’m consuming 30 to 40 ounces of inexperienced drink a day.

I must be getting sufficient magnesium. And I say, properly, clearly you’re not. After which they take my liquid magnesium and Significantly, they arrive again the following day they usually say, I really feel so a lot better. As a result of they’re mainly very wholesome, as a result of they’re not consuming, you recognize, most likely not consuming the seed oils, not consuming straight sugars, and all the remainder of it which can be unhealthy for us.

And the magnesium they have been lacking once they take it, it’s like, Oh, okay, my cells actually like that. And you’ll be doing all the appropriate issues and consuming all the appropriate meals and consuming rather well. However what you’re saying is you’re nonetheless not getting the correct quantity of magnesium as a result of it doesn’t exist in the way in which that our meals is produced and manufactured and raised and grown anymore.

Ruth: So how have you learnt, is mainly all people magnesium poor? I imply, is that simply sort of throughout the board? After which how have you learnt how a lot magnesium you have to be taking?

Dr. Dean: This will get into the issue of magnesium compounds versus stabilize the ion of magnesium. However I at all times say that any quantity of magnesium even the worst absorbed like magnesium oxide is a straight on laxative as a result of solely 4 % of it’s absorbed.

However individuals really feel higher once they take it. Research have proven that magnesium oxide helps individuals. So you probably have any magnesium in your cupboard, you recognize, begin taking slightly little bit of it. However in case you take an excessive amount of of it, it’ll provide the laxative impact. And lots of medical doctors would say properly, in case you get the laxative impact, then that’s sufficient, your physique has absorbed sufficient.

That’s not the case. It’s simply acquired run proper by means of your physique and grow to be a laxative and that was my drawback truly. When Random Home requested me to write down my Miracle of Magnesium e book again in 1999, I ran, I noticed my signs within the analysis I used to be doing. I ran out and acquired a bottle of magnesium as a result of I wished greater than was in my a number of and I instantly acquired the laxative impact with 50 milligrams.

So I needed to go on a ten 12 months search for an organization and eventually, I discovered a chemist who would make a non laxative stabilized ion of magnesium. And it’s the one one which’s out there. And so it’s my mission to let individuals learn about this, however like I stated, any magnesium, it’s going to assist. However in case you’re on a half a dozen medication and feeling all of the signs head to foot, you want extra magnesium.

That’s not going to make the laxative impact magnesium compounds. Once they get into the bloodstream, they’ll disassociate. It’s referred to as. into the 2 elements, magnesium and the citrus citric acid, the magnesium and chloride, magnesium and the glycine. And it’s solely separated for a cut up second. And it’s solely in that cut up second the place the ion of magnesium will leap right into a cell.

And do its work, however you recognize, there are trillions of properly tens of trillions of cells in our physique, so You realize, there’s at all times one thing taking place however we’ve gotten to the purpose now with our Continual PTSD as a rustic as a world. The horrible weight-reduction plan that persons are consuming the huge stress The shortage of minerals in our water that we’ve to complement.

And what I’ve begun, properly, it’s been years, however I’ve talked about whole physique meltdown that’s taking place in of us the place the thyroid is affected and weakened, particularly in ladies after getting pregnant and childbirth, the thyroid could be very a lot. depleted. And what allopathic drugs and different drugs each do is that they wait until the thyroid is completely tanked they usually give thyroid hormone substitute.

I used to be on armor thyroid and after I made my magnesium product, I made a a number of mineral with all of the stabilized ions. And within the analysis and all I discovered 9 minerals that assist thyroid hormone manufacturing. 9 minerals. So I put it in amongst a complete of 12 minerals. Six weeks into taking my very own components and we have been testing it out.

My fingers and ft acquired heat and I used to be extra hyper than regular. So I spotted, oh my gosh, my thyroid is kicked in. So I finished my arm or thyroid. Now, that is what the FDA doesn’t like to listen to. And I can let you know hundreds of individuals since then have been capable of get their thyroid hormone again. And we’ve to warn individuals whenever you take this a number of mineral, you recognize, remember that your physique could not want.

As a lot or could not want the thyroid hormone anymore. And that’s fairly highly effective. Once you consider the constructing blocks which can be essential, the adrenal glands, they rely on sodium. And what are we telling individuals? Don’t eat salt, rely on the B nutritional vitamins, they usually’re not in our meals provide both, and vitamin C and magnesium.

Easy constructing blocks. And there’s potassium in there as properly. Potassium is vital. Truly with magnesium generally, they assist the absorption of one another. So then you might have the intercourse hormones, you recognize, when the thyroid is weakened it drags the adrenals and vice versa. After which it, there’s a drag on the intercourse hormones.

perimenopause. I don’t suppose it’s regular. It’s simply been a reputation that’s been given to ladies who I feel have whole physique meltdown they usually’re simply dragging on their thyroid and their adrenals and simply feeling horrible. Yeah. However this, the boron. There’s a complete listing of issues. Fundamental minerals that the intercourse hormones bend on in addition to ldl cholesterol.

Ruth: So, so how does, so magnesium, you’re saying it impacts ldl cholesterol as properly?

Dr. Dean: Completely. So the various kinds of magnesium, that is fascinating to me. So are what, which is the kind of magnesium that individuals must be taking if the magnesium is inflicting sub deficiency? Yeah. Sure. So. The advertising and marketing of magnesium prior to now, you recognize, 10, what’s it, 15, 20 years?

I feel lots of it’s primarily based on my e book, the Magnesium Miracle. It’s not this e book, this can be a shorter kind and an replace of all issues magnesium. However in case you have a look at the advertising and marketing of lots of these magnesium compounds, they’ll reference my e book or me. And what they’ve tried to do is say. Oh, you recognize, MagniTML308.

On the entrance of the label 2000 milligrams and also you suppose, Oh, my gosh, 2000 milligrams of magnesium. I’m all set. Flip the label round. Oh, I’ve to take three capsules as a way to get solely 144 milligrams. Oh, my gosh. In order that’s sort of promoting. And Then they do the magnesium L3 in a individuals. They did a research on rats and stated it was 7 % extra absorbed into the mind than a magnesium citrate primarily based on 7%.

They’ve satisfied the general public that they’re the one magnesium that may get into the mind. Any magnesium in its ionic state, you recognize, once I get it disassociated, it can pop into the mind. In order that they’ve actually, you recognize, and it’s an costly product as properly. They’ve actually achieved a disservice to the general public.

It’s closely marketed. It’s it’s comes out of China. We don’t know what’s occurring with it. And in some situations, they attempt to say that threonate is like threonine, which is a an amino acid that’s good for the mind, however it’s a threonate, which is a by-product of vitamin C. So it has nothing to do with something.

And the advertising and marketing of all of the others. Oh, properly, you may get a magnesium malate and that’ll assist in case you’ve acquired fibromyalgia and the tour a magnesium tour. It would assist the center and this the glycine and glycine magnesium glycinate will do assist the intestine. But when it’s a magnesium deficiency that you just wish to handle, you need the magnesium.

You don’t need the taurate or the malate. And that’s why I’ve the stabilized magnesium ion, 300 milligrams per dose, straight magnesium. Whereas you are taking A 500 milligram capsule of a magnesium compound. The magnesium half is 50 to 75 milligrams and the remainder is the add on. All the opposite stuff.

Ruth: So, however what you actually have to be targeted on. So, I imply, that is all like very technical stuff that we’re speaking about and it’s straightforward to get overwhelmed with all of it. So, how do you method this in case you’re simply eager to. Enhance your well being, proper? How do you method this in a approach that makes it actually easy to know, okay, right here’s precisely what I must do, proper?

Simply give me, I hear this from my shoppers on a regular basis. Like, ah, I like listening to about all these things, however then I get overwhelmed and I don’t know how one can implement it. So how do I’m going, like, what do I do? Simply inform me what to do step-by-step. So what are the steps? Let’s give like three steps.

Dr. Dean: Primary, get hydrated.

Okay. You want water and also you want sea salt in that water. So you are taking your physique’s weight in kilos, divide that in half, drink that many ounces of water per day. After which every quarter liter put And I’m going so as to add 1 / 4 teaspoon of sea salt. Good sea salt means one thing that has coloration in it.

If it’s a white sea salt, it’s been too refined. However you don’t begin with 1 / 4 teaspoon. Simply begin with a pinch. And also you’ll get, it’ll style candy to you. It’ll style so a lot better than. Then water out of the faucet and water out of the faucet. It’s been filtered. It’s been chlorinated, perhaps Florida.

Florida. So we do need you to have non chlorine, non fluoride waters as a lot as attainable. So you set within the sea salt, primary, hydration with sea salt. And quantity two, simply begin taking some magnesium. Like I stated, all people’s acquired magnesium of their cabinet. I assure you, however you’ve most likely put it apart due to the laxative impact.

If it’s a powder, put it in, in your sea salt water. After which sip that by means of the day so that you just’re not simply taking one, one harsh dose like that may overwhelm your self and land in your gut. That’s a laxative of the liquid powders, even capsules, Ruth, individuals might take a magnesium capsule. and put that in water and attempt to dissolve it and drink that by means of the day.

I do know there’ll be binders and fillers in there, however you’re swallowing it anyway. And the third factor could be to come up with my e book. It’s a really it’s a very simple to learn, overview of magnesium, which is important for 80 % of recognized metabolic features. After which on the finish of it, you could resolve that, properly, perhaps I ought to do that.

And as soon as individuals attempt my Pico meter magnesium, they don’t look again. And that’s what you need from vitamins. You wish to really feel them work. My a number of minerals introduced my thyroid again and did a complete bunch of different issues. And my magnesium, it took away my coronary heart palpitations and a dozen different signs. So, it’s And what’s it?

The proof is within the pudding. Yeah. Properly, I imply, that makes it really feel quite a bit less complicated and undoubtedly much more doable. Eat the water, add the salt, which is in, which is completely reverse of what individuals inform us. Then take the magnesium, no matter magnesium you might have, simply. Begin taking extra magnesium and getting extra magnesium.

Ruth: It’s very fascinating. I haven’t heard that wish to unfold it all through the day and be consuming it all through the day. So I actually like that. After which undoubtedly try your e book. We’ll make sure that so as to add the hyperlink to your e book in our present notes. So in case you’re listening to this, then you possibly can simply try the present notes and we are able to, and yow will discover the e book and to learn extra Carolyn, thanks a lot.

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