That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Reside Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: Do you know that perimenopause lasts on common 10 years for most ladies? And when you think about that girls make up 50 % of the inhabitants, it is a vital period of time for a subject that will get largely ignored. So why is that? And as ladies, what can we do to take extra management of this piece of our life that has such a big impact on our high quality of life, even when nobody’s actually speaking about it?
That’s precisely what we’re going to be speaking about right now as we dive in with greatest promoting creator and menopause skilled Dr. Liz Lister. There are such a lot of gold nuggets and takeaways on this interview that you simply’re most likely going to need to take notes. So let’s get began.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Actual.
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Ruth Soukup: At this time we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Liz Lister, who’s an OBGYN medical physician, a bestselling creator and speaker, and an skilled in perimenopause and menopause. And right now she’s shedding some severe mild on a subject that’s nonetheless for probably the most half largely below ignored and misunderstood by the medical neighborhood. Paramenopause, menopause, and hormonal replenishment remedy.
It’s undoubtedly a should pay attention for any lady in your 40s or past. So with out additional ado, I’m so excited to have the ability to introduce you to right now’s interview visitor, Dr. Liz Lister. Dr. Liz, thanks a lot for being right here right now. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Completely. My pleasure, Ruth. Pleased to be right here with you.
Ruth Soukup: Yay. So let’s speak about menopause as a result of it’s a giant factor. It’s a huge, huge factor. And I believe that Earlier than we do this, although, I would like to only ask you about your self, however I completely flaked out on my first query. Like, so excited to leap into this subject. Can’t even wait. However first, inform us a bit bit about your background, as a result of I believe that’s truly actually, actually necessary.
So inform us about who you’re, what you do. How you bought to be doing what you’re doing now.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Completely. You wager. So to start with, I’ve Dr. Liz Lister, and I need to simply aid you out by saying that I went into menopause once I was 43 and I’m 59 now. So all the things that we’re going to speak about, all of the questions it’s possible you’ll ask and all the things that we go over, I’ve personally skilled, requested myself these questions, seemed along with the analysis in addition to my very own expertise.
I’m an OBGYN, board licensed, I ended delivering infants a very long time in the past as a result of I desire to sleep at evening. Then I saved narrowing my apply, so I ended doing the foremost surgical procedures, I’ve my little children, they’re each of their 20s now. And I simply saved narrowing issues down. So it obtained to the purpose the place I used to be solely doing workplace gynecology.
After which I had the chance to actually turn into a specialist, an skilled within the hormone stability piece. I had written my first e-book by that time limit, and I actually cherished it. And in order that’s the place I’ve been now for developing on it. Properly, nearly 20 years of the deal with the hormone piece however actually very narrowly that.
And I simply love serving to principally ladies, males as properly, actually of all ages, however primarily ladies of their forties and fifties stability their hormones and really feel nice. I believe it’s our birthright to really feel nice, to really feel horny and to actually fulfill on our potential. In order that’s what I’m right here for. It’s my project.
I really like that.
Ruth Soukup: I really like that. In order that’s attention-grabbing. Did you, you began with hormones actually focusing in on hormones about 20 years in the past. So that might have been earlier than you truly skilled menopause. Did that, did something change for you when you began going by it your self? Or is it like, Oh, I do know precisely what’s going to occur.
Or did all of it, did it like form of throw you off a bit bit?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Okay. Nice query. It didn’t throw me off too badly for a number of necessary causes. One is my household background is from Argentina. My mother’s retired from being a physician, my grandma, these ladies have been unimaginable fashions for me of getting older and getting stronger and staying vibrant.
In order that was essential. The opposite is that I don’t actually know why, however I used to be at all times tuned in to studying about hormones particularly. That basically has been a theme now that you simply make me give it some thought. I bear in mind, that is manner, I used to be nonetheless delivering infants and I used to be at a lecture and it was speaking about sure hormones and animal research and the event of breast most cancers.
That is earlier than the Girls’s Well being Initiative. And I simply bear in mind, I bear in mind the place I used to be once I heard that data. So I suppose I’ve at all times had a specific draw to that. Type of distinction that angle and once I was in medical college I adopted the chief resident into an examination room as a result of that’s what you do whenever you’re a pupil you comply with different individuals round quite a bit And we went and there was this lady having a whole lot of menopausal signs and truthfully Ruth I don’t bear in mind precisely what we did for her I don’t bear in mind if the physician I used to be following wrote a prescription or not However I do bear in mind how a lot better the lady felt after we listened to her You And talked along with her that left an enormous impression on me.
So I believe that’s most likely simply being heard. Sure.
Ruth Soukup: Wow. Wow. So let’s speak about that. Among the emotional challenges that you simply see that for girls that occurred throughout form of this time of life, proper? Perimenopause menopause. And what’s the distinction? Do you suppose between the bodily and the emotional stuff?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Properly, to start with, there’s no separation. about this, you’ve talked about hormones because the chemistry of our feelings. That’s how I confer with hormones. So there’s actually no separation. The entire, the entire phrase, thoughts, physique, it’s a bit bit deceptive, proper? As a result of our thoughts is totally not separate from the physique.
It’s very built-in. They’re built-in. And so after we take that built-in strategy we do quite a bit higher. We get quite a bit additional. I believe that there’s a giant connection and never a coincidence. I bear in mind once I turned 40, I used to be not very completely satisfied about it main as much as it. And I didn’t need to have a celebration.
After which a good friend of mine who was in her early forties persuaded me. So I had a celebration. It was a whole lot of enjoyable. And as quickly as I turned 40, I used to be like, Oh, Hey, this feels good. That is good. , you come into your personal, proper? Versus like whenever you’re in your twenties, I believe lots of people of their twenties.
And In all probability even 30s pondering again for myself could be very externally motivated What are individuals pondering like actually obtained targeted on that and whenever you enter your 40s? It’s such a beautiful fabulous alternative in 50s. It simply will get higher Simply that’s what I hear.
Ruth Soukup: Like, I believe the 40s have been my greatest decade to date.
Like, I’m like, that is nice. If the 50 is even higher than this, then deliver it on. I’m going to have the largest get together ever.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Precisely. Precisely. After I turned 50, that’s once I went and climbed Kilimanjaro. That was
Ruth Soukup: superb.
Dr. Liz Lyster: That’s superb. Anyone listening who likes mountaineering. You possibly can climb Mount Kilimanjaro. I imply, it’s important to put together, it’s important to do issues to prepare, but it surely’s not, you recognize, my mom was very afraid that I used to be going to have ice picks and clamps on my sneakers and stuff.
She was like picturing…It’s an extended, lovely hike. And so I set myself that problem. Then I discovered from considered one of my sufferers, she goes, Oh, that’s attention-grabbing. After I turned 50, I went to Italy and did a cooking class for every week. And I assumed, huh, I by no means, I’m
Ruth Soukup: getting all of the concepts now.
I find it irresistible. I find it irresistible. So what are the, let’s take it again to. Parabenopause menopause. Like what are, are there completely different phases that you simply undergo and the way are you aware what, which part you’re in?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Okay, nice query. I wish to reply this query going backwards. So menopause is one entire 12 months with out your interval, then you definitely’re in menopause.
That’s the roughly official definition. Common age is 51. Okay. Then there’s years earlier than that the place all the things’s marching alongside, common month-to-month interval, feeling good, sleeping properly, managing your weight, that issues are doing fairly properly, that’s good hormone stability and that’s pre. Then there’s this huge area in between which is perimenopause and that may embody every kind of disruptions.
Progesterone goes down first, then estrogen begins to say no or go up and it begins to get erratic. In the meantime, testosterone and DHEA are declining, a whole lot of modifications occurring on prime of the menstrual cycle modifications which can be like daily modifications. You’ve obtained these, that, that’s the perimenopause part.
Ruth Soukup: And the way, how lengthy does that part final
Dr. Liz Lyster: or extra years, 10
Ruth Soukup: or extra years?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Sure. That lengthy. Not for everyone, not everybody, however what’s most necessary for girls listening is that if something appears off that to not take the physician’s phrase. Sadly, a whole lot of my sufferers that come to me as a result of their physician mentioned, properly, you’re nonetheless having your interval.
So it could possibly’t be your hormones. And that’s completely improper. Mm-Hmm. That’s not true. .
Ruth Soukup: So it sounds prefer it’s nearly like that is nonetheless form of an ignored Oh, it’s only a lady factor form of factor. Yeah. In drugs, fashionable drugs.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Is that true? You’ve gotten that drawback in fashionable drugs. We’ve got it in medical analysis.
Proper, I used to be studying one thing the opposite day about situations that have an effect on lower than 1 % of the inhabitants get tons of of thousands and thousands of {dollars}, after which situations that have an effect on ladies, which is half of the inhabitants, will get Underneath 5, 000, 000 {dollars} funding, or some enormous discrepancy like that. And that, after all, is expounded to the pharmaceutical business as we at present have that.
So it’s a problem. It’s a, it’s undoubtedly difficult.
Ruth Soukup: And why do you. I imply, even from a pharmaceutical standpoint, like pure revenue looks like it will be larger if you happen to’re coping with half of the inhabitants. So why is, why are ladies so ignored?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Properly, to start with, after we speak about something hormonal and hormone balancing, we need to stick with bioidentical and bioidentical signifies that it happens in nature.
Which additionally then signifies that you can’t take a patent out One thing so
Ruth Soukup: they’ll’t become profitable on it. In order that they’re not .
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah sure methods sure issues I imply if we have been targeted on well being and wellness and stopping sickness That may be a tremendous shift. And I believe that girls are taking that upon ourselves to, to deliver that shift.
Girls need to, we need to stop sickness. We’re 80 % of healthcare shoppers anyway. So we love the lads and we wish them to be properly as properly. And a whole lot of, and males acknowledge this. A whole lot of the lads that I see in my apply is as a result of a girl of their life despatched them. So we actually, we actually are, ladies might be the tail that wags the canine at a societal stage and for positive we’ve got to try this at a person stage.
You must advocate for your self.
Ruth Soukup: For positive. How do you suppose having a way of neighborhood helps ladies throughout this stage of life? Do you suppose that makes a giant distinction? Do you see that together with your purchasers?
Dr. Liz Lyster: I do. I undoubtedly suppose it makes a distinction. I believe it’s essential. I really like the subject of the blue zones and there’s a specific blue zone the place ladies kind little teams of 4, little teams of 4, and they’re simply there for one another by thick and skinny ups and downs.
So I believe neighborhood is crucial. I believe that it will get a bit bit difficult. In the USA, our tradition could be very individualistic. It’s all about, I can powerful this out, I’m gonna push by. So a whole lot of the ladies, you recognize, I handle busy ladies. A whole lot of them are professionals very A number of challenges that they’re coping with as they’re rising older and going by these modifications And it’s simply that it’s so necessary to recollect That we we’d like one another.
We’d like neighborhood I believe that’s taking place. I believe that’s why Podcasts are rising. On-line teams are rising. So long as it doesn’t turn into a spot of complaining that that may be an issue with on-line data, it may be a bit bit restricted.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. And, however I additionally see the, the, the superb aspect of that, like in our, in our program, as an illustration, we’ve got probably the most amazingly supportive neighborhood.
And I believe, you recognize, I’ve been doing on-line enterprise for a very long time. I’ve grown a lot of completely different manufacturers and communities and issues. And the one factor that I see with this demographic, proper, that we’re on this forties and fifties is sort of for girls. And I don’t know if you happen to’ve too, proper. Whenever you’re Centered on your loved ones and elevating your children.
Most of your social community tends to be the mother and father of your folks, children, proper? You’re in sport, you’re going to sporting occasions. And so your folks with all of the, the sporting although, to your mother and father or the, whoever, after which all the sudden your children. Grow old they usually go away the home or they’re not doing these actions anymore.
And that entire community form of falls aside. And I see that so typically from ladies form of hitting this stage of life the place impulsively your children are older. So it’s not simply, you’re coping with all of the hormonal modifications which can be taking place. You’re coping with impulsively, I really feel like I’ve misplaced my sense of self.
I don’t know who I’m. As a result of my children are grown and that was my entire life. And I, now I don’t actually have buddies as a result of these individuals I used to speak to you on a regular basis about our children. We don’t actually have that in frequent anymore. And so now we’re not, you’re not doing like, it’s a, it may be a really like weirdly isolating, discombobulating form of part of life, I believe for extra causes than simply the hormonal stuff that’s occurring, do you see that too?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah, completely. I undoubtedly see that. That’s why I’m so captivated with getting the hormones balanced as a result of in any other case you would actually find yourself in a darkish place.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah. Due to
Dr. Liz Lyster: all these modifications taking place round us, I believe it’s so necessary. I imply, we’ve got to work our brains. We’ve got to maintain up our pursuits.
And so I really like encouraging youthful ladies in that space as properly. What are your pursuits? It’s at all times that the, the one film, it’s a Julia Roberts film the place, how does she like her eggs? The place it takes her quite a bit, she goes by quite a bit personally, and by the top of it, she has to face the query, properly, what do I like?
Oh, I don’t suppose I’ve seen that film. It’s nice, I’ll consider the title, I’ll point out it. Is it
Ruth Soukup: the? Eat, pray, love. Is that the one?
Dr. Liz Lyster: It’s not that one. I need to say Runaway Bride. Oh, I need to say that one. I’ll, I’ll double verify on that. However we’ll put it within the present notes. That’s what that’s was my takeaway from that film.
Yeah. And he or she spent a lot time and that is what we’re speaking about is we as ladies. We spend a lot time taking good care of all people else. One of many phrases I like isn’t any airplane captain ever mentioned, ensure you assist everybody else earlier than you set your oxygen masks on.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah.
Dr. Liz Lyster: No one, no person ever mentioned that, and no person ever will.
Proper. And I believe that that’s, That’s the chance, that’s the, the silver lining of all of these distractions and busy that we do when the children are youthful or when we’ve got different, earlier in our careers, that form of factor. After which we get to paramenopause and even menopause and, and it, it’s like a complete new world.
Alternative to see what it’s that we like. What are we involved in? What can we need to spend the subsequent few a long time doing?

Ruth Soukup: And the way do you need to, and the way do you need to really feel good throughout that?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Sure. Thanks for saying that. Trigger for me, it goes with out saying. So thanks for highlighting that. And I need to additionally, I at all times discuss concerning the fashionable drawback that we’ve got as a result of Ruth, solely like 100 years in the past, most ladies didn’t attain age 50.
Actually? Sure. Like 5 % of girls made it to age 50.
Ruth Soukup: Wow.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah. Take into consideration earlier than all the fashionable drugs that we’ve got in hospital care and childbirth and that form of factor. Oh yeah. And now half, at the very least half of us can anticipate to dwell into our 80s or much more. And scientific research present that individuals who envision themselves residing longer truly dwell longer.
Yeah.
Ruth Soukup: Is that true? Yep. That’s attention-grabbing. , however, however then it comes proper again to what do you do proper now to handle your self? As a result of I used to be, I simply interviewed any person for this podcast final week and she or he was a geriatric bodily therapist. I believe that’s what, what her profession was. And, and she or he got interested.
And after she went on, on maternity go away, she grew to become involved in serving to ladies get wholesome as a result of she sees the top end result, proper? She spends, she was spending each single day working with individuals who have zero high quality of life, proper? They’re alive. They’ve made it to 80, however they’re not residing. And whenever you see that, and whenever you see individuals attending to that part the place it’s, it’s nearly on the level the place it’s too late, it’s too little, too late, even you attempt to assist them, however there’s not quite a bit you are able to do.
Then you definately go, the place can we again as much as? And it’s proper now it’s proper on the stage of life the place now you could have this. And I cherished the way in which that you simply phrased that you simply mentioned, it’s a possibility. It is a chance to determine what do I need the subsequent 30 years of my life to appear like, and the way do I need to really feel throughout that, that point?
I prefer it. It like form of provides me chills once I give it some thought.
Dr. Liz Lyster: I do know me too. Yeah, precisely. So, okay. Proper.
Ruth Soukup: So let’s return. How, like, how do you differentiate between you’re having these hormonal points, proper? You’re in perimenopause, which is 10 years for, for most individuals. Then there’s all this different stuff occurring too, proper?
All of those different signs that we’re experiencing. So how do ladies differentiate between perimenopause and signs and different well being points that they’re experiencing and the way do you. Deal with them. Do you deal with them individually? Do you deal with them collectively? What’s what does that appear like?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Okay? I’ll reply these form of in reverse order Undoubtedly treating all the things collectively as a result of the purpose is the quote is her high quality of life for every of my sufferers My objective is her high quality of life However step one is each single factor that’s occurring the circumstances and the way they’re altering, what’s she feeling?
Is she having sleep points, temper points, sexual operate points, menstrual points, weight and metabolism points? Any of these are often going to at the very least have a hormonal part. Okay, so there’s that. Then after all, there’s all the necessary way of life decisions. As I say to my sufferers, I can’t out hormone your way of life.
I can’t provide you with a recipe meaning that you could, like for me, return to once I was 20s and youthful and I may simply go to Baskin Robbins every time I wished. As quickly as I discover that magic tablet, I’ll let all people know. However proper now, what we’ve got are the necessary decisions that we’ve got to make in addition to the hormone stability.
Let’s see, the place else did we need to go together with that?
Ruth Soukup: So differentiating the signs between the pyramids,
Dr. Liz Lyster: proper? So at all times a hormonal part for my part, that’s my bias. That’s my angle on issues. And so I at all times, at all times take a look at that. In order that’s the very first thing is the signs. The second could be very, I do very detailed lab work.
Okay. And my sufferers often, by the point they get to me, they, They’ve tried to advocate for themselves. They’ve tried to request some testing. A whole lot of medical doctors, if she’s nonetheless having her interval, she’s in her 40s and even into her 50s, if she nonetheless has her cycle, the physician received’t even run any assessments. And in the event that they’re prepared to, they’ll do like two or three assessments.
Proper. Actually, actually only a few. So for me, the second step could be very detailed Workup often blood work and typically urine testing as properly in a while possibly saliva testing However I like to begin with what individuals can get achieved on their insurance coverage I don’t work with insurance coverage as a result of it’s too constricting. I spend manner an excessive amount of time with my sufferers. I did that previously.
I attempted to invoice insurance coverage and I couldn’t make ends meet with my workplace as a result of I simply wasn’t cramming in sufficient individuals. You weren’t quick sufficient. I simply was taking too lengthy with every of my sufferers and that was for normal gynecology. With perimenopause and menopause, there’s quite a bit to speak about. So differentiating.
In order that’s, that’s the second step. The third is deciphering to optimum, not simply. Are you within the regular vary? And I’m saying air quotes as a result of a lot of my sufferers, once more, by the point they get to me, that they had this or that examined they usually have been informed it was regular as a result of it was within the vary, like barely, like squeaked into the naked backside of the vary.
Yeah. And once I discuss with them, like, no, that’s, that’s within the vary, but it surely’s not optimum. In order that’s the third. After which the fourth is what I do when it comes to. Utilizing pure approaches, bioidentical hormones, dietary supplements, way of life decisions, all the things I can do. After which the fifth is the long run adjusting, following up.
In order that’s actually necessary, is the being conscious that there’s a hormonal piece to these signs. And second is the detailed testing. I’d say to reply the query, that’s actually the 2 important. These are my entire 5 steps, however the first two are the principle, yeah, it’s necessary, I
Ruth Soukup: suppose what stands out to me and simply listening to you speak about this and the strategy that you simply’re taking, proper.
Couple of issues. Primary, the truth that in an effort to get what you’re speaking about in our Fashionable crappy system that we’ve got with insurance coverage firms and the, like, get them in, get them out, prescribe the meds, prescribe the meds as shortly as potential and go to the subsequent one. Like it’s important to pay for that privately, principally is what you’re saying.
Like, and that’s not, everybody can do this. Proper. That’s proper. So how unhappy is that? And what a tragic commentary on the place we’re with drugs when there may be. Primary, so many issues that you are able to do from a way of life perspective and a pure perspective to be treating what the basis causes of all the points that your expertise are, quite than simply placing a bandaid on it and, and, and taking one other prescription.
And. And but, so what does any person do in the event that they’re like, I can’t afford to spend 1000’s of {dollars} to go to a non-public place. I’ve insurance coverage. I have to undergo the correct channels. How do you discover, how do you discover a physician that’s going to be prepared to truly take a look at the entire image? Trigger that’s the second factor that stood out to me is that you simply’re wanting on the entire image.
You’re doing a full panel. You’re all of the items. Whereas most drugs right now is. piecemeal, piecemeal, piecemeal, piecemeal, piecemeal. And it’s so fragmented that it doesn’t actually, it by no means actually will get to the basis of the matter.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Certainly. That’s a very necessary and difficult query. To begin with, it’s being true to 1’s personal expertise.
So if I’m going to search for a physician, I have to honor my expertise. I’ll hear nice issues concerning the physician, but when the workers Don’t return my calls, they’re not taking good care of me, then I’ll have to maintain wanting. In order that’s essential. One other is that sadly the generations of medical doctors are an issue proper now.
We’ve got a complete technology of medical doctors educated in replenishment remedy into huge. Deep bother. And it seems that they studied the improper ladies, used the improper hormones and gave them the improper, these improper hormones, the improper manner. So there’s issues that we’ve realized and there are medical doctors on the market who sustain with the literature American menopause society, which now could be.
menopause society. They do fairly job holding medical doctors updated. They’re, they’re nearly there. However they do a giant evaluate of the literature each 5 years. So the latest one was in 2022. And so they made a number of issues very, very clear. What’s good is that it’s, I imply, it’s an extended paper. It’s like 20 pages of very detailed, condensed evaluate of literature, and so on.
However they do job spelling issues out. So, for instance, in the latest one, they realized one thing that I and others like me have identified for a very long time. So, Which was that the Girls’s Well being Initiative was improper a couple of cutoff by when that you must use hormones, in any other case you’ll find yourself in bother.
In order that they removed that cutoff begin date. In addition they acknowledged, once more, one thing that many people have identified for a very very long time, that there actually isn’t a required age to cease if somebody chooses, if a girl chooses to replenish some hormones. There’s no arduous age the place she has to cease. That’s actually necessary.
After which in addition they did a bit extra discussing of high quality of life which for instance, vaginal dryness, ache with intercourse, recurrent bladder infections, that’s all simply remedied by very low doses of vaginal estrogen, which doesn’t get into the system. So happily, these sorts of efforts assist common medical doctors do higher.
For serving to their sufferers. So I’m seeing that I’m seeing ladies who graduate from their care with me. What we get all the things dialed in, we get them feeling nice. After which by that point, possibly I’ve had the chance to at the very least do e mail speaking with their physician or ship them the menopause society place assertion.
I don’t know in the event that they learn it, however at the very least they’re, you recognize, perform a little,
Ruth Soukup: little training. I really like that.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Sure. Yeah. However I, I’m listening to that. So it’s, it’s essential to just be sure you resonate together with your physician, that they’re listening to you, that they’re not gaslighting you, telling you that you’re simply getting older and also you simply must dwell with it.
I name that the J phrase, simply,
Ruth Soukup: yeah, no, we completely don’t. However let’s discuss a bit bit extra concerning the hormone substitute remedy. So whenever you’re speaking about HRT, are there a number of completely different varieties, proper? Is there. Pharmaceutical and pure variations of this, and since you have been speaking about bioidentical hormones, is that the identical factor?
Is that various things? Clarify, clarify how this works to me.

Dr. Liz Lyster: All proper. I really like this subject. It’s considered one of, considered one of my favourite subjects. And I at all times wish to admit straight out the gate that I’m undoubtedly biased in favor of hormones. There are such a lot of research, 1000’s and 1000’s of girls studied, Within the U S in Europe, elsewhere that verify that the fitting forms of hormones administered the fitting manner might be extraordinarily useful.
Okay. So I wish to say my bias proper out of the gate. Okay. I like famous. Yeah. I like to make use of the phrase bioidentical quite than the phrase pure. That is the place medical doctors get a bit prickly when, after we speak about pure as a result of There are issues that happen in nature that may be very harmful for our well being.
So we need to watch out with that. The phrase pure is utilized in a advertising setting to suggest that it’s robotically protected. Sure. It’s necessary to watch out round that. So I really like the phrase bioidentical as a result of what it means is that the hormone that you simply’re replenishing with that you simply’re placing into your physique is both Nearly or precisely the identical as what our feminine human our bodies used to make loads of.
Ruth Soukup: All proper. Okay.
Dr. Liz Lyster: So our hormone ranges begin to decline at the very least in our thirties for lots of stuff in our world and toxins and whatnot. Some individuals undergo it even youthful, however at the very least by our thirties, even below completely wholesome situations, our hormone ranges naturally begin to decline, particularly as properly males as properly, however ladies for positive.
After which issues additional change after which if we’re fortunate and we dwell lengthy sufficient, our ovaries will go into full retirement. Transcribed After which we’re in menopause. Sure. And so replenishing a few of these hormones, once more, to not the, to not excessive excessive ranges, however simply sufficient to have an amazing high quality of life.
That’s my angle, my strategy. Bioidentical is especially necessary with progesterone. Oh, and Lysate. Progesterone. The ladies’s well being initiative that obtained the hormones in bother as a result of It truly issued the press launch earlier than the research was printed and the place we medical doctors may learn it and see what was taking place and so the headlines have been instantaneous of an elevated pattern in direction of extra circumstances of breast most cancers
Ruth Soukup: Nevertheless
Dr. Liz Lyster: These ladies, I bear in mind I mentioned improper ladies, improper hormones, improper route of administration.
In order that they got a non bioidentical progestin. Not, they weren’t given progesterone. We now know, we’ve got many, many research, huge research, an enormous research in France that was performed that confirms what I’m speaking about, that bioidentical progesterone doesn’t have that elevated tendency.
Ruth Soukup: Huh. How do you get one and never get, not get caught with the opposite?
Dr. Liz Lyster: Fortunately, it’s very simple. And there may be at the very least one bioidentical progesterone that’s pharmaceutically obtainable, often lined on individuals’s insurance coverage. And in order that’s a simple one. It is a simple one for our listeners. Okay. In the event that they’re feeling progesterone calms, the mind helps with anxiousness, a lot of anxiousness in our world right now.
Progesterone can actually assist. It calms the mind to assist with sleep. So ladies who’re being given a band help sleeping tablet? Generally progesterone is the basis trigger, is decrease progesterone. As you talked about, the basis trigger, that’s the place we need to function. And so it’s very, essential to have or not it’s bioidentical.
And fortuitously that’s, it’s on the market and obtainable. Lotions can be found over-the-counter. The progesterone oral capsules for some ladies do even higher when it comes to how they’re damaged down and the way they calm the mind and assist with sleep.
Ruth Soukup: Huh. Attention-grabbing.
Dr. Liz Lyster: What do
Ruth Soukup: you sometimes advocate to your sufferers?
Like what’s the commonest, the commonest strategy that you simply take whenever you say, okay, I believe that you must go on bioidentical hormones. Right here’s what I like to recommend. What does that appear like?
Dr. Liz Lyster: All proper. So to start with, it seems to be just like the measuring ranges, which is to get a baseline. Okay. There’s a whole lot of controversy.
Is blood testing one of the best ways? We may argue about that, but it surely’s a baseline. It tells us the place we’re beginning. It additionally reveals if issues are very low as a result of then ladies suppose, okay, I’m not imagining issues.
Ruth Soukup: I
Dr. Liz Lyster: even have
Ruth Soukup: no, it’s good to have that affirmation,
Dr. Liz Lyster: proper? Precisely. Precisely. Precisely. So I at all times begin with sleep.
Sleep is critically necessary for hormone stability. If a girl isn’t sleeping, we take a look at why is she waking up with sizzling flashes or evening sweats. So progesterone may very well be very useful and is a very simple beginning place. One other step might be estrogen. With all the things I do, beginning very low dose and dealing up from there.
That’s my methodology. I believe it’s an effective way for girls to not find yourself with uncomfortable side effects from an excessive amount of of something. Estrogen, we’ve got now additionally realized the opposite second out of the 2 most necessary factors about hormone substitute or replenishment remedy, as I wish to name it, is progesterone being bioidentical and estrogen being by the pores and skin.

Ruth Soukup: Oh.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Within the Girls’s Well being Initiative research, they got oral estrogen, and that goes into the abdomen over to the liver, and the liver then is stimulated to make clotting elements. So whenever you use estrogen by the pores and skin, and that is one thing that’s occurred in the previous few years, is that girls can now get these items on-line, which I believe that’s okay.
However ultimately typically a few of the individuals who find yourself coming to me and like, okay, I’ve been doing this on my own for some time. I get ordered my very own blood work and I ordered my very own hormones and I need somebody to look over all of this. Yeah. So I actually would favor that medical doctors get with this system and be taught and, and stand up to hurry on the literature to allow them to assist their sufferers.
So there may very well be a patch pharmaceutically obtainable. It may be a gel pharmaceutically obtainable. I undoubtedly use compounding pharmacies. They’re properly regulated, opposite to standard perception. It’s completely different than how the pharmaceutical business is regulated. So as a result of medical doctors are solely taught in that paradigm, they have a tendency to dismiss compounded hormone preparations.
However for instance, for girls to have the ability to get any testosterone, No less than in the USA requires utilizing a compounding pharmacy and testosterone may help every kind of points mind sharpness So it helps clear up mind fog helps with metabolism helps with temper It may be a really it could possibly assist with libido It’s not the one factor that impacts libido for us as ladies, we’re very complicated creatures.
A whole lot of issues contribute to motivation and intercourse drive, proper? Libido’s not solely about intercourse. So all of that’s to say that utilizing the fitting, that, that’s my strategy, utilizing the fitting safer alternate options, estrogen by the pores and skin and bioidentical progesterone. These are sometimes going to be a very nice begin.
Ruth Soukup: Adore it. So I really feel like I may ask a billion questions on this.
Dr. Liz Lyster: The
Ruth Soukup: part of life I’m in. However is there any manner, so is there any solution to not do hormones, proper? Like, and that is only a query for myself of like, okay, at what level do I would like to begin occupied with this? , I’m consuming a wholesome way of life.
I’m advocating a wholesome way of life. I’m speaking about hormonal stability. I’m speaking On a regular basis by making the fitting way of life decisions and meals decisions, as a result of what you’re consuming, it makes an enormous, has a big impact on all these hormones. However is there a degree that none of that may work and that it’s important to be on hormones or do some individuals do exactly high-quality with out the hormones?
Dr. Liz Lyster: All proper. I’m once more saying my bias in favor of hormones. What I’ll say is that each, all these good decisions are so necessary for therefore many causes.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah.
Dr. Liz Lyster: And. There, if we’re blessed to dwell lengthy sufficient, there comes a degree the place the ovaries go into full retirement.
Ruth Soukup: Sure. And may’t cease that regardless of how good you eat.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Yeah. I imply, there’s, there’s individuals researching the right way to cease that, the right way to, I imply, after all they’re it from a fertility standpoint, how, I imply, I’m 59, the right way to let ladies my age have infants, which I’m not in opposition to that. Nevertheless, do I believe that we have to not have menopause? I undoubtedly don’t suppose that I’ve already mentioned, I believe it’s an enormous alternative and never having a interval anymore is a okay with me.
All proper. So there’s, there’s huge upsides to all of this. There’s an upside. Like the sleek, a lot of issues clean out. So for instance, our bones, our bones, our bones, the easiest factor we are able to do for our bones. After we go into menopause for the long run preservation of bone density goes to be a low dose of estrogen.
Ruth Soukup: That’s enormous.
Dr. Liz Lyster: It’s actually, actually essential. , my mother had breast most cancers when she was in her late sixties. Now she’s in her late eighties and so she’s doing superior. She was principally cured. I do know we don’t use that phrase with breast most cancers, however that’s what occurred. It’s so. She obtained taken off of her hormones and she or he I’ve simply watched her through the years.
She’s misplaced most likely like 5 inches in peak as her vertebrae compress in her backbone and she or he, you recognize, similar to journeys and falls and hits the hand on a desk or a counter and breaks one thing. So that is Actually, some of the necessary elements that hormone replenishment might be useful with.
Ruth Soukup: So it goes again to that high quality of life whenever you’re 80s.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Precisely. Precisely. And that is reminding me to say one thing that I at all times say to sufferers is tremendous necessary is that if a girl desires to make use of some hormone replenishment, it doesn’t imply she’s caught utilizing it endlessly. A whole lot of ladies, particularly who’re actually targeted on making nice decisions and being in nice well being, are involved that, properly, I’m having such unhealthy sizzling flashes that I can’t sleep by the evening, but when I take estrogen to assist that, I’ll be caught taking it endlessly and that’s not true.
Put it into these phases proper now in a part of actually feeling horrible. My vaginal dryness is so unhealthy. I cannot be intimate with my husband or my companion, you recognize, like no high quality of life. So treating, addressing these points, I can really feel snug that I can handle these points and I’m not dedicated endlessly.
I can take it a number of years at a time.
Ruth Soukup: I really like that. I believe that that additionally like feels very comforting of not having to decide to one thing for endlessly. And I additionally really feel like I may maintain speaking about this for a really very long time, however I need to be conscious of time. Inform us a bit bit extra about what it’s that you simply do and the way we are able to discover you.
Like, how can individuals discover you? You’ve written a number of books and you’ve got another stuff occurring. So inform us about that.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Completely. I’ve all types of issues occurring. All the time. My web site is at all times one of the best ways for individuals to achieve me: https://drlizmd.com/ Folks can write to me, ask me questions, join my e-newsletter that I ship sometimes.
I’d love to offer your listeners a free copy digital copy of my most up-to-date e-book, which is Go For Nice: Dr. Liz’s Information to Thrive at Each Age. Adore it. GATE is an acronym, achieve data, which your listeners do, understand the reality about hormones, which we talked about, discover your expectations. No magic bullets.
Sorry. Spoiler alert. Advocate for your self and T is for thrive.
Ruth Soukup: I find it irresistible.
Dr. Liz Lyster: Deal with feeling nice at all ages. I actually think about menopause for me. Once more, I went in once I was 43. So it was a very long time in the past. So I walked the stroll of a whole lot of what I speak about and do with my sufferers. So I actually think about it to be an enormous alternative.
So I’m making a neighborhood referred to as the Miracle of Menopause. And trigger, trigger that’s how I take a look at it. It’s actually a miraculous time of life. We get to redefine ourselves, possibly outline ourselves if we have been being outlined by others to this point. So I believe it’s only a great alternative as a result of when ladies, after we’re doing properly, Everybody round us does higher.
Ruth Soukup: That’s so true. So true. Oh, Dr. Liz, it was so superb to speak to you and all the things that you simply simply talked about and your e-book that you’re giving to all people, which is so extremely beneficiant.
So get that and undoubtedly seize the e-book. Take a look at the Miracle Menopause Community. If that is an space of your life, you’re in search of extra assist. And simply thanks a lot for being with us right now.